Charlotte CC?

Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
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Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
A lot of good courses in and around Charlotte.
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It's a much different course now than it used to be. I look forward to seeing it in a year or so, when everything gets to the way they want in. I really like the minimalist approach they took to it. I don't think anybody who appreciates golf for golfs sake can say there is a better golf course in Charlotte, and other than Pinehurst #2, not many better in the entire state. So far nobody has shot par from the Championship tees, and this includes several guys with PGA Tour experience and the greens fairly receptive. The stretch of 10-13 is absolutely brutal. 460 par 4, 200 par 3 over water, 560 par 5 uphill, 515 par 4.
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Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
A lot of good courses in and around Charlotte.
A lot of decent courses in and around Charlotte. Charlotte is the worst place in the state for golf courses. There are a couple good ones but not many. The best ones are extremely exclusive.
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Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
A lot of good courses in and around Charlotte.
A lot of decent courses in and around Charlotte. Charlotte is the worst place in the state for golf courses. There are a couple good ones but not many. The best ones are extremely exclusive.
Having lived in NC for 12 years now I definately have an opinion. I lived in the eastern part of the state, Rocky Mount, for 4 years during college, and golf there was horrible then and still is now. I will agree and disagree with you about Charlotte though. THe public courses here are great layouts like Highland Creek, Skybrook, Birkdale...but they get so much play that their condition is horrible for most of the year and a round at any of them is close to 5.5 hours on a weekend. In addition, they are WAY overpriced for public courses coming in at $65+ on the weekends. IRI has really run these courses down the drain recently. Skybrook should be ashamed of their bunker and green condition this year. The courses around Raleigh and the Southern Pines areas are better than Charlotte for price, condition, and playability.
Where Charlotte has a huge advantage IS in the private side. Not all of the courses are super exclusive like Myers Park, Carmel, or Quail. In fact, many of the private courses are very affordable while still being private. In addition, the inter-course agreements in the Charlotte area are great and keep you from getting too bored with your home course. My course has 4 agreements with other private courses. The Raleigh area has 0 affordable private courses for 99% of people in their 30's and above. The only private options are $30,000+ initation...or the course is semi-private like the Heritage, Wildwood Green, Falls Village, or Pine Hollow. Is there really a point to joining a semi-private course if you still have a 5+ hour round on the weekend?
The junior memberships at the private courses are AMAZING in the charlotte area. Initiations are very reasonable for a junior (below 35 in most cases), and are around $7,500 to 10,000 for full membership in many cases. These include great clubs and courses like Cowan's Ford, Verdict Ridge, Cedarwood, Raintree, Pine Hollow, Northstone, and others. Sure, each of them have their pluses and minuses, but to join a fully-private course at those rates is unreal for the course condition. It is like no where I have ever lived or visited...which basically includes just NJ and 3 major cities in NC for the last 12 years. Just stating my thoughs and opinions of the courses here.
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Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
A lot of good courses in and around Charlotte.
A lot of decent courses in and around Charlotte. Charlotte is the worst place in the state for golf courses. There are a couple good ones but not many. The best ones are extremely exclusive.
Having lived in NC for 12 years now I definately have an opinion. I lived in the eastern part of the state, Rocky Mount, for 4 years during college, and golf there was horrible then and still is now. I will agree and disagree with you about Charlotte though. THe public courses here are great layouts like Highland Creek, Skybrook, Birkdale...but they get so much play that their condition is horrible for most of the year and a round at any of them is close to 5.5 hours on a weekend. In addition, they are WAY overpriced for public courses coming in at $65+ on the weekends. IRI has really run these courses down the drain recently. Skybrook should be ashamed of their bunker and green condition this year. The courses around Raleigh and the Southern Pines areas are better than Charlotte for price, condition, and playability.
Where Charlotte has a huge advantage IS in the private side. Not all of the courses are super exclusive like Myers Park, Carmel, or Quail. In fact, many of the private courses are very affordable while still being private. In addition, the inter-course agreements in the Charlotte area are great and keep you from getting too bored with your home course. My course has 4 agreements with other private courses. The Raleigh area has 0 affordable private courses for 99% of people in their 30's and above. The only private options are $30,000+ initation...or the course is semi-private like the Heritage, Wildwood Green, Falls Village, or Pine Hollow. Is there really a point to joining a semi-private course if you still have a 5+ hour round on the weekend?
The junior memberships at the private courses are AMAZING in the charlotte area. Initiations are very reasonable for a junior (below 35 in most cases), and are around $7,500 to 10,000 for full membership in many cases. These include great clubs and courses like Cowan's Ford, Verdict Ridge, Cedarwood, Raintree, Pine Hollow, Northstone, and others. Sure, each of them have their pluses and minuses, but to join a fully-private course at those rates is unreal for the course condition. It is like no where I have ever lived or visited...which basically includes just NJ and 3 major cities in NC for the last 12 years. Just stating my thoughs and opinions of the courses here.
I will agree with you that Birkdale is a good course, but it hasn't been in good condition since new management. I dislike Skybrook and Highland Creek (its okay). BUT, Myers Park may be my least favortie Donald Ross course and I love DR courses. Carmel SOUTH is a good course but the North sucks. Quail is exclusive, that is the ONLY course in Charlotte I have not played and will not allow me to play without a member. And you are right about IRI, my dad used to work for them and they are awful. The Pointe, Verdict Ridge and Northstone are good courses. Cedarwood has made improvements but still not a great layout and Raintree south is pretty good but the NORTH is one of the worst layouts in Charlotte.
IMO, the only GREAT courses in Charlotte are Longview, Quail Hollow, and Charlotte CC.
There is a new course called Red Bridge just east of Charlotte, but I haven't heard anything about it. I think we may be playing it later this week just to see how it is.
Forgot about Palisades, its a good course but somebody wasn't thinking when they designed a golf course 6800 yards this day and age.
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Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
A lot of good courses in and around Charlotte.
A lot of decent courses in and around Charlotte. Charlotte is the worst place in the state for golf courses. There are a couple good ones but not many. The best ones are extremely exclusive.
Having lived in NC for 12 years now I definately have an opinion. I lived in the eastern part of the state, Rocky Mount, for 4 years during college, and golf there was horrible then and still is now. I will agree and disagree with you about Charlotte though. THe public courses here are great layouts like Highland Creek, Skybrook, Birkdale...but they get so much play that their condition is horrible for most of the year and a round at any of them is close to 5.5 hours on a weekend. In addition, they are WAY overpriced for public courses coming in at $65+ on the weekends. IRI has really run these courses down the drain recently. Skybrook should be ashamed of their bunker and green condition this year. The courses around Raleigh and the Southern Pines areas are better than Charlotte for price, condition, and playability.
Where Charlotte has a huge advantage IS in the private side. Not all of the courses are super exclusive like Myers Park, Carmel, or Quail. In fact, many of the private courses are very affordable while still being private. In addition, the inter-course agreements in the Charlotte area are great and keep you from getting too bored with your home course. My course has 4 agreements with other private courses. The Raleigh area has 0 affordable private courses for 99% of people in their 30's and above. The only private options are $30,000+ initation...or the course is semi-private like the Heritage, Wildwood Green, Falls Village, or Pine Hollow. Is there really a point to joining a semi-private course if you still have a 5+ hour round on the weekend?
The junior memberships at the private courses are AMAZING in the charlotte area. Initiations are very reasonable for a junior (below 35 in most cases), and are around $7,500 to 10,000 for full membership in many cases. These include great clubs and courses like Cowan's Ford, Verdict Ridge, Cedarwood, Raintree, Pine Hollow, Northstone, and others. Sure, each of them have their pluses and minuses, but to join a fully-private course at those rates is unreal for the course condition. It is like no where I have ever lived or visited...which basically includes just NJ and 3 major cities in NC for the last 12 years. Just stating my thoughs and opinions of the courses here.
I will agree with you that Birkdale is a good course, but it hasn't been in good condition since new management. I dislike Skybrook and Highland Creek (its okay). BUT, Myers Park may be my least favortie Donald Ross course and I love DR courses. Carmel SOUTH is a good course but the North sucks. Quail is exclusive, that is the ONLY course in Charlotte I have not played and will not allow me to play without a member. And you are right about IRI, my dad used to work for them and they are awful. The Pointe, Verdict Ridge and Northstone are good courses. Cedarwood has made improvements but still not a great layout and Raintree south is pretty good but the NORTH is one of the worst layouts in Charlotte.
IMO, the only GREAT courses in Charlotte are Longview, Quail Hollow, and Charlotte CC.
There is a new course called Red Bridge just east of Charlotte, but I haven't heard anything about it. I think we may be playing it later this week just to see how it is.
Forgot about Palisades, its a good course but somebody wasn't thinking when they designed a golf course 6800 yards this day and age.
I think it says a lot for a course, like Myers Park, when many of the members don't even like the course that much. I've heard they are converting 18 into a par 4 now, so who knows.
I agreen with GH though on pretty much every point. Charlotte has probably the best private golf in the state, not counting the Linville area with both Linville and Grandfather, but public golf in Charlotte leaves a lot to be desired. When I played Longview this past winter it was bitterly cold and extremely windy, but seemed pretty good, and a nice compliment to Charlotte and Quail. To be honest though, Quail has never really dazzled me from a layout perspective. I do like it though. Charlotte is absolutely brutal now. They had the UNCC team out right before the NCAA's and Corey Nagy set the new course record with a 69. I'm looking forward to getting back out there in a few weeks.
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Good article in Charlotte paper today about CCC gonna get to play next month hopefully. If not hope I make to yhe final day of the City AM.
A lot of good courses in and around Charlotte.
A lot of decent courses in and around Charlotte. Charlotte is the worst place in the state for golf courses. There are a couple good ones but not many. The best ones are extremely exclusive.
Having lived in NC for 12 years now I definately have an opinion. I lived in the eastern part of the state, Rocky Mount, for 4 years during college, and golf there was horrible then and still is now. I will agree and disagree with you about Charlotte though. THe public courses here are great layouts like Highland Creek, Skybrook, Birkdale...but they get so much play that their condition is horrible for most of the year and a round at any of them is close to 5.5 hours on a weekend. In addition, they are WAY overpriced for public courses coming in at $65+ on the weekends. IRI has really run these courses down the drain recently. Skybrook should be ashamed of their bunker and green condition this year. The courses around Raleigh and the Southern Pines areas are better than Charlotte for price, condition, and playability.
Where Charlotte has a huge advantage IS in the private side. Not all of the courses are super exclusive like Myers Park, Carmel, or Quail. In fact, many of the private courses are very affordable while still being private. In addition, the inter-course agreements in the Charlotte area are great and keep you from getting too bored with your home course. My course has 4 agreements with other private courses. The Raleigh area has 0 affordable private courses for 99% of people in their 30's and above. The only private options are $30,000+ initation...or the course is semi-private like the Heritage, Wildwood Green, Falls Village, or Pine Hollow. Is there really a point to joining a semi-private course if you still have a 5+ hour round on the weekend?
The junior memberships at the private courses are AMAZING in the charlotte area. Initiations are very reasonable for a junior (below 35 in most cases), and are around $7,500 to 10,000 for full membership in many cases. These include great clubs and courses like Cowan's Ford, Verdict Ridge, Cedarwood, Raintree, Pine Hollow, Northstone, and others. Sure, each of them have their pluses and minuses, but to join a fully-private course at those rates is unreal for the course condition. It is like no where I have ever lived or visited...which basically includes just NJ and 3 major cities in NC for the last 12 years. Just stating my thoughs and opinions of the courses here.
I will agree with you that Birkdale is a good course, but it hasn't been in good condition since new management. I dislike Skybrook and Highland Creek (its okay). BUT, Myers Park may be my least favortie Donald Ross course and I love DR courses. Carmel SOUTH is a good course but the North sucks. Quail is exclusive, that is the ONLY course in Charlotte I have not played and will not allow me to play without a member. And you are right about IRI, my dad used to work for them and they are awful. The Pointe, Verdict Ridge and Northstone are good courses. Cedarwood has made improvements but still not a great layout and Raintree south is pretty good but the NORTH is one of the worst layouts in Charlotte.
IMO, the only GREAT courses in Charlotte are Longview, Quail Hollow, and Charlotte CC.
There is a new course called Red Bridge just east of Charlotte, but I haven't heard anything about it. I think we may be playing it later this week just to see how it is.
Forgot about Palisades, its a good course but somebody wasn't thinking when they designed a golf course 6800 yards this day and age.
I think it says a lot for a course, like Myers Park, when many of the members don't even like the course that much. I've heard they are converting 18 into a par 4 now, so who knows.
I agreen with GH though on pretty much every point. Charlotte has probably the best private golf in the state, not counting the Linville area with both Linville and Grandfather, but public golf in Charlotte leaves a lot to be desired. When I played Longview this past winter it was bitterly cold and extremely windy, but seemed pretty good, and a nice compliment to Charlotte and Quail. To be honest though, Quail has never really dazzled me from a layout perspective. I do like it though. Charlotte is absolutely brutal now. They had the UNCC team out right before the NCAA's and Corey Nagy set the new course record with a 69. I'm looking forward to getting back out there in a few weeks.
Nagy is actually a good friend of mine, he is a very solid player. I've known him since I was about 8, so a good 10 or so years.
What course are you talkin about that Nagy set the record?
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Charlotte CC. He was the only guy to break par from the championship tees, and is the only person to break par from back there so far.
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Charlotte CC. He was the only guy to break par from the championship tees, and is the only person to break par from back there so far.
Does the City Am play from all the way back?
If so, then I'm playing.
I played there about 2 years ago from 1 set of tees up (high school conference) and shot 70, putted terrible ha
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I would assume so, and I would also assume they are going to try to make it about as hard as possible. 7400 yards par 71, thick rough and lightning fast greens. The nicest part about the final round is going to be caddies, which will be included in the entry fee.
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I would assume so, and I would also assume they are going to try to make it about as hard as possible. 7400 yards par 71, thick rough and lightning fast greens. The nicest part about the final round is going to be caddies, which will be included in the entry fee.
7400 Par 71 thick rough, lightning greens....sounds like our National Championship.
It was 7250, par 70, thick rough, lightning greens.
I may play then. Too bad its on Cedarwood and Carmel first two rounds. I don't mind Carmel south though
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I figure 150 or maybe even higher will get through the first two rounds. I am kind of thinking there aren't any practice rounds for any of the courses, and Charlotte is a totally different golf course now. New fairway bunkers and cross bunkers on lots of holes. New greens. It's going to be interesting.
It'd be nice in a few years if they had Charlotte, Quail and Longview be the three courses.
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I figure 150 or maybe even higher will get through the first two rounds. I am kind of thinking there aren't any practice rounds for any of the courses, and Charlotte is a totally different golf course now. New fairway bunkers and cross bunkers on lots of holes. New greens. It's going to be interesting.
It'd be nice in a few years if they had Charlotte, Quail and Longview be the three courses.
That won't ever happen, unfortunately. Quail and Longview won't let that happen.
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It's at Quail next year, and most people though Charlotte would be the last place that would want to have it when they first started it back up.
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It's at Quail next year, and most people though Charlotte would be the last place that would want to have it when they first started it back up.
I think I will be back at school when the city Am is played.
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Red Bridge isn't complete yet is it?? Played Charlotte yesterday 78 from champs, absolutly still and always is my fav. But am not gonna attempt City AM due to family vac. and work it's just not goona workout. You guys do know registration is open now for the am.
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Red Bridge isn't complete yet is it?? Played Charlotte yesterday 78 from champs, absolutly still and always is my fav. But am not gonna attempt City AM due to family vac. and work it's just not goona workout. You guys do know registration is open now for the am.
I'm not sure. I have seen advertising for it a lot lately.