Best year round golf state?

What is the best golf state? One where you can play year round. Which state has the best teaching pros?
Colorado gets pounded some winters (like this last where we were buried for 70 days) but is great in the summer. Arizona gets too hot in July/Aug. Florida is sticky in the summer.
Do you need to buy a winter house and a summer house?
Some ideas: South Carolina, TX, North Carolina, CA?
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if you don't mind the humidity, Florida is perfect. Personally, it doesn't affect me that much at all. When I'm on the course, I forget all about it, but during everyday life, it definitely hits you...
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ARIZONA!!
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az
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Support your choice. AZ temps are 120deg in July. That isn't a good choice in my book.
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Alot of this question is definetly $$$ related.
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Why do moderators relocate topics all the time. This should be in Golf-talk non-equipment and it got moved to Golf Accessories and travel? This isn't about travel. It's about the state that is best for year round golf.
I once posted a topic about putter heads that got moved to 19th hole. Just for fun I'm going to post "what are the best golf earrings in "Golf Equipment"
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It has to be Florida. Just look where most of the Pros live.
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um...Hawaii?
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The lack of state income tax in FL has a lot to do with why so many golf (and tennis) pros reside there....
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Another for arizona. Sunniest state in the United States. Plenty of golf courses to choose from, and great rates in the summers
Yes it does get ridiculously hot in the summer, but you learn when to go out, and you do get used to it.
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I'll still say Arizona, despite the 110+ degree summers. I honestly don't mind that heat. It's a whole lot dryer than Florida, so while it felt hot, it was at least manageable.
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I have to throw in my two cents worth for my home state Florida is great, people don't realize while it might rain every day between march and July 95% of the time its a 30-45 minute shower in the heat of the day no big deal.... AZ would be a great place as well, as for Hawaii the cost of trying to play golf there year round would make Trump flinch and thats not mentioning trying to play in those trade winds.
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Although we might have a week or two in the dead of winter that we might not get to play. For the most part here in West Texas it is all year long.
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I can't believe no one has mentioned CA.
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How about New South Wales, Australia??
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I've lived in both FLA and in Cali. For year round golf, and learning to become a good player its California hands down. Here is why.

Although I was not yet a golfer when I lived in FLA, I remember too many ultra hot and muggy days. In So Cal there is moderate year round golf weather, and with the exception of a short stretch in mid winter it doesnt rain much. Also, even on the hottest summer days you can play courses near the coast (Like at Los Verdes municipal on the Palos Verdes peninsula) and the temps will be remain the 80s.
Also, the diversity of courses is much greater. One can play flat open courses, courses with lots of trees, mountain courses, courses with lots of water hazards etc...
Remember, the world 2 best golfers (Woods and Mickelson) both are native Californians, and developed their skills on the California junior golf circuit...
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I have lived in both Florida and currently North Carolina I find the year round golf great either place. But I lived in NW Florida and the east coast of NC.
It was 70+ here today but I had to work.
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I think for everything in one state it has to be Florida then Texas. A lot of pros live in Fla and Texas (Houston & Dallas areas), and there are many top notch instructors in both states. I moved from Miami to Houston. The weather is similar, and it does get pretty hot in the summer but fall, winter and spring is a great time to play. However Texas is much more affordable than Florida due to the lack of heavy tourism in Texas. In short if you have a lot of money Fla is great but if you're on a budget Texas is much cheaper.
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A lot of pros live in Fla and Texas (Houston & Dallas areas)
Might have something to do with the lack of state income tax as well.
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Come to the Bay Area my friend. Done deal.
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It's not even a question, it is California. Hands Down!
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Elementary my dear Watson ,California ,preferably southern .It would be simply wasteful to argue.
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There was a similar thread a while ago, which got me thinking. And yeah, I do had too much time on my hand right then and there...
I made up a list of the top golf destinations in the US:
city -------------------------- golf days -------- no. holes (-50mi) -- pop (metro area) - avg. c. rating - avg. greenfee - living cost (US=100)
Los Angeles, CA ----------- 360 --------------- 3456 ----------------- 17.7M --------------- 3.1 ------------ $42.58 ---------- 151
San Diego, CA -------------- 360 --------------- 1611 ----------------- 2.9M ---------------- 3.1 ------------ $46.43 ---------- 144
Miami, FL -------------------- 360 --------------- 3033 ----------------- 5.4M ---------------- 3.2 ------------ $55.59 ---------- 124
Orlando, FL ------------------ 360 --------------- 3861 ----------------- 2.5M --------------- 3.4 ------------- $43.20 ---------- 98
Hawaii ----------------------- 360 --------------- 1575 ----------------- 1.3M ---------------- 3.4 ------------ $89.78 ---------- 180
Phoenix/Scottsdale, AZ ---- 270 (90H) -------- 3897 ---------------- 4.0M ---------------- 3.5 ------------- $70 ------------- 104
Palm Springs, CA ----------- 270 (90H) -------- 2943 ---------------- 400K --------------- 3.3 ------------- $61.38 ---------- 118
Myrtle Beach, SC ----------- 300 (60C) -------- 1647 ---------------- 250K --------------- 3.2 ------------- $77.52 ---------- 97
Las Vegas, NV -------------- 210 (60C-90H) --- 1062 ---------------- 1.8M ---------------- 3.3 ------------ $116.02 --------- 104
Atlanta, GA ----------------- 270 (90C) --------- 3141 ---------------- 5.3M ---------------- 3.5 ------------- $45.36 ----------- 93
Dallas/Fort Worth, TX ------ 255 (75C-30H) -- 2952 ---------------- 6.0M ----------------- 3.4 ------------ $41.13 ----------- 85
New York, NY --------------- 210 (150C) ------ 2943 ---------------- 21.7M --------------- 3.5 ------------- $42.88 ---------- 146
Chicago, IL ----------------- 190 (170C) ------ 4815 ----------------- 9.7M ---------------- 3.2 ------------- $41.70 ---------- 113
- golf days: number of days with temperatures between 10C-38C / 50F-100F. in the brackets number of days too cold and too hot. rainy days were not considered, as there nothing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing...
- number of holes: avg. taken from golflink.com and golfcourse.com search results and limited to a 50 mile radius.
- population: This includes solely the resident population. Played rounds would be a far better measure including tourists but I couldn't find anything useful for that. The way it's right now it's skewed toward the small communities.
- avg. course rating: taken from golfcourse.com
- avg. greenfees: taken from golf course.com
- cost of living: taken from
Now, if someone could find a source for the rounds played, some mathematically more gifted person than I am could find a cool formula to calculate an index to properly compare these locations.
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I'm thinking that the best situation is to live in Colorado through the spring and summer, and have a condo in AZ, CA, or FL for the Winter.
(although CO winters can be brutal, we are still playing golf out here and it's 70*. We'll be playing into December and then picking it back up in May.)
If it doesn't snow like last year we can play through the year.
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There was a similar thread a while ago, which got me thinking. And yeah, I do had too much time on my hand right then and there...
I made up a list of the top golf destinations in the US:
city -------------------------- golf days -------- no. holes (-50mi) -- pop (metro area) - avg. c. rating - avg. greenfee - living cost (US=100)
Atlanta, GA ----------------- 240 (90C-30H) --- 3141 ---------------- 5.3M ---------------- 3.5 ------------- $45.36 ----------- 93
- golf days: number of days with temperatures between 10C-38C / 50F-100F. in the brackets number of days too cold and too hot. rainy days were not considered, as there nothing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing...
- number of holes: avg. taken from golflink.com and golfcourse.com search results and limited to a 50 mile radius.
- population: This includes solely the resident population. Played rounds would be a far better measure including tourists but I couldn't find anything useful for that. The way it's right now it's skewed toward the small communities.
- avg. course rating: taken from golfcourse.com
- avg. greenfees: taken from golf course.com
- cost of living: taken from
Now, if someone could find a source for the rounds played, some mathematically more gifted person than I am could find a cool formula to calculate an index to properly compare these locations.
I know this data came from somewhere other than just made up, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that there are 90 days/year that are too cold for golf in Atlanta. Heck, it's November 15, and there hasn't been a day yet this season that has had a high below 50 and not a single one is forecasted to be even close over the next 10 days, so it's safe to say that until Dec 1, there will not be one. It would have to become absolutely FRIGID (which in my 27 years here, it never has) for the next 3 months solid to bring us to 90 days--and that has ZERO possiblity of happening as 90 days from Dec 1 will be March 1 and that's when we begin warming up again. I worked in the golf business for years, and the club I worked for was open year around--as the lowly assistant, I worked Thanksgiving and Chrismas Day every year, and we always had golfers out playing. I'd say you may have 30 days in the next 3 months at the absolute most that will have a high below 50--which is what was considered too cold to play on the above chart. A more realistic guess by me would be 20...both those figures are WAY OFF THE 90 that is stated.
As for 30 days that are too hot, we do have a few days that break 100 each year, but I don't believe the figure of 30 days that are above 100. Heck, our highest average is 89* in July, so to get 30 days above 100, we'd have to haves some ridiculously cool weather mixed in, which doesn't happen. Though I disagree here, there is a TON BETTER chance of 30 days breaking 100 than there are of even 45 days not getting to 50 (which is only HALF of the days forecasted in the chart)!
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Well, I guess I must have slipped with the 30 days of +100...don't know where to though.
I got my 'data' from www.wunderground.com...here's for Atlanta
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As reference I took the rough middle of the average high/low temps. This is the middle of the two not so zigzag lines. Clearly this is below my stated 10C/50F line from December thru March, hence 90 days. Looking at last years temps, they were very much over 10C nearly the whole time. But ut was meant to be an average, and a rough one at that.
But anyways, just when you wonder why nobody does a study like this, and then finally try yourself, they do it....Top 50 cities in the US for golf:
They only ranked metro areas of +1M population, so no Myrtle Beach and Palm Springs...
Criteria included: weather, affordability, quality of courses, accessibility, number of courses designed by esteemed architects, availability, crowdedness
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Arizona, great courses perfect weather, as long as you can handle the july heat, but its not that bad in a cart so i say arizona is the best
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Gainesville, Florida, you can play year round...doesnt rain AS much as southern Florida...
I have never been to Cali, but I would imagine that would be pretty sweet
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Based on your criteria, I would vote for San Diego. Can't believe no one else has.
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Based on your criteria, I would vote for San Diego. Can't believe no one else has.
California IS in POCKET!!
PLEASE give it a rest about all the other states you folks here are mentioning.
Californias' temp. average is 72 YEAR ROUND and guess what else California lacks-
HUMIDITY!! All these other states get a mix of; Cold, HUMIDITY, Rain, HUMIDITY, BLAZING heat with HUMIDITY, SNOW, ICE, HUMIDITY, HURRICANES, Tornadoes, HUMIDITY, wind and did I mention ...HUMIDITY?
California has one season. SUNNY, 72 and Warm.
I'm from SD and I now live in NoVA. So unless you've lived in So. Cal and California in general, all the other states that got mentions for SUPPOSEDLY having good, year round golf weather, -have NO chance that their state is better than CALIFORNIA for golf.
It's now LOUSY and COLD weather here in VA and the northeast in general AND it's pretty much going to be this LOUSY until April of 2008.
Damn I miss San Diego right about now.
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If you're looking overseas, how about Victoria in Australia...