MANSION RIDGE GC?

Has anyone played this course? How is it? I'm thinking about making the drive up from the city one of these days.
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It's a good course until the summer and then they let it go to crap...
It's run by American Golf and if you know anything about them from the NYC course they don't care about course conditions at all...
Not sure why as it's a good layout...
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I have played it twice in an annual charity tournament. Like many courses built recently, it was built on land with wetland issues. It has a ton of forced carries and elevation changes. Not a course that you would want to walk.
Bottom line - it is a good, but not great course.
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i agree with the rest. i played it once at the end of last summer and it was in bad shape. definitely had some drainage problems as well. decent layout, but i was not impressed. probably wouldn't go back.
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I played it once and will probably not play it again. I thought it was quircky and way over priced. I can deal with expensive green fees, but I just did not think it was worth it.
I might just prefer more of a traditional layout.
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i've played it a few times. i think it's overpriced and overrated. i'm hard pressed to name a single really good hole. conditions are very mediocre for what they charge... the fringe of the greens have a plastic lining that sticks out and seems to get in the way more often than not. i say skip it or only go twilight/reduced rate if you're curious.
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trying to revive this forum. thanks.
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i am going to have to disagree with most of the people who have replied. this is one of my favorite courses in the NY area. yes, the course is overpriced during the summer. but the best time to play this course is in the fall. the course is heavily wooded and its got that feel where you don't see all the holes at once. i am a big fan of courses where holes are very individual and you only see one hole at a time. the front 9 is ok but starting from the 9th hole the course gets a lot better. 9th is a par 5 with 3 tiered areas. reaching in 2 is near to impossible. the last 3 holes are extremely difficult and make the course very very fun if youre playing with your buddies for some money (or even pride). i definitely think this is a must play for anyone in the ny area.
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thanks.
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course is alright. Overpriced. There are much better courses in putnam and dutchess county for much cheaper.
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american golf courses in nyc suck but i have played a few out in vegas that were pretty good
edit: i just tried looking up the names on agc's website and now they dont own/manage any courses in nevada. i actually used to work for an agc course in nyc back in high school and won a trip thru the company in 1998 to vegas and played 3 of their courses, one had horse in its name, crazy horse or wild horse something like that and i cant remember the other 2 for the life of me, if i saw the names i would remember
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Mansion Ridge is actually a fun and challenging track- not terribly long, but plays narrow and favors shot making. If you're gonna trek that far, you may want to consider Centennial, Hudson Hills, some of the Crystal Springs courses (Wild Turkey, Ballyowen, Black Bear - in that order), Patriot Hills, Links at Unionvale, etc. oh, and Pound Ridge if you feel like spending even more than at MR.
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Just adding to the list by ghromas....
1. Richter Park in danbury Ct. (hour from nyc)
2. Beekman CC (hour from nyc)...
3. Casperkill is a little bit of a hike (1.5 hours) but is nice.
4. My favorite is West Point though. However you can only make Tee times 3 days in advance if you are a civilian. Great course though and usually isn't crowded. Shorter course but really tests you.
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i would mostly agree with what these guys say about other courses in the area. patriot hills and centennial are probably the 2 best courses in the area. personally i think hudson hills is overpriced at $115, though its a nice course. another good course in CT that no one mentioned is Great River. West Point is a nice track and decently priced but its always in crappy condition. same goes for garrison. crystal springs has some really really great golf and personally the best golf in the NYC area. wild turkey, crystal springs, and ballyowen are the three best courses out there by far. crystal springs is actually rated the 36th hardest course in the US by Golf Digest. if anyone wants to know more about courses in the NY/NJ area, shoot me a PM and i'd be more than happy to discuss...
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I've played Mansion Ridge a number of times. I think it is a decent course, and very nice in the fall (and other times, too). If you decide to play, try to get a reduced fee off the web. As others have pointed out, at full price it is overpriced. But my main gripe with MR, and the reason I don't play it more, is that it is managed poorly. There's always some kind of issue when I play there, and you can pick from the following: not honoring tee times at the reserved time; not enough carts (required) resulting in a wait; starting an outing with daily fee golfers already playing (and being asked to leave). And this is not just me. Other golfers I've played with around here have their own stories, none of which have to do with the layout or quality of the course.
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thanks again everyone.
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Forgot Hudson Hills was $115 for out of county golfers. sorry im a westchester county residence so Hudson Hills is like $85 for me. Even at $85 is it way overpriced. If you arent a Westchester County resident, I wouldnt play Hudson Hills. Not even close to being worth it.
Just to warn you guys. There has been 2 times where it has been a 5 hour plus round.
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any of you guys venture to LI? Never played at Bethpage. How is it there? I am not talking about Black. I know Red is suppose to be just as good.
The other courses are suppose to be decent too. If I book a tee time should I expect a 6 hour round???
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all the courses at bethpage are really nice IMO. the order of "niceness" is Black, Red, Green or Blue (equally good but different styles), and Yellow. Red is definitely a tough test, especially from the tips (7100 yards, Par 71). if you don't tee off at like 8AM, be prepared for a 6 hour round.
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Yeah I saw the scorecard for Red. There are many par 4's over 400 yards. Yea coming from Westchester we would probably aim to get a 10 am tee time. Not sure if I would do it knowing that its going to be a long round.
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The Red is a great course. Very tough. Long par 4's, many doglegs, THICK rough. Many similarities to the Black but just not as manicured.
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How is Bethpage during the week? Crowded?
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Bethpage is always slow and I'd only go there during the offseason or very early in the morning. Red and Black are the only ones worth playing imho.
The NYC muni tracks have great layouts- Split Rock, Pelham, La Tourette are all great, but are literally 6hr rounds everyday unless you are one of the first tee times. They do tend to get covered in goose droppings, and definitely don't leave your bag unattended (esp if you have OEM headcovers on expensive clubs).
The muni tracks in Westchester and Long Island are average to bad. Saxon Woods, Maple Moor, Mohansic, Sprain Lake, Douglaston, Van Cortland are all short, slow and terrible. Harbor Links is good but can be expensive. Unless private or Bethpage, I'd rather go West or North.
The tracks close to the city in NJ are still mostly overpriced, boring and slow. Rivervale, Valley Brook, Royce Brook, Garrison (not as expensive), Colts Neck, NJ National, Minisceongo, etc.
Not sure if Branton Woods is public again, but that was one of my favorites outside of the Crystal Springs tracks before it went private/Club Max or whatever.
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Played this for the first time about a month and a half ago and I probably wouldn't bother going back. Overall, I thought the layout was good and kept you interested, but as people have said everything else about it makes the round miserable. Overpriced, there is no service there, our round took over 6hours to complete. The course was overbooked and we waited on every shot for the entire round. My personal favorite from the day: standing on the first tee, myself and my playing partners were discussing our teeing options. While figuring it out, the starter walks over to us and says "Lets not make an exact science out of this, just get up there and hit the ball". Nice service from a place that is charging you close to 100 bucks to play their course. It was a good thing we rushed to tee off, too. Only had to wait for 3 foursomes to finish the 2nd hole, a short par 3.
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Richter Park raised the rates this year and it's way overpriced for non-Danbury residents now - it's nice for a muni but not for the money. I played West Point a few weeks ago and it was in very good shape at the time... greens were quick, fairways well groomed and fantastic views. Patriot Hills is "meh" at best - three par 3s in a 4 hole stretch right around the turn?? just a dumb layout. Branton Woods is still private... for now. A buddy of mine played Spook Rock not long ago in Suffern, NY and said it was in great shape so I'm trying to head over there sometime soon.
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Yeah we payed about $90 or $95 to play Richter earlier in the season. We will play it once or twice a year. It is too much money to play often.
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royce brook is not a bad track and reasonably priced, but i hear now only the east course is public. the better track, the west, is now public. i'm a huge fan of split rock. i've never been out to the crystal springs complex, but i hear ballyowen's worth the $ and wild turkey is not nearly as tricked up as crystal springs.
spook rock is a very nice public golf course, not quite montauk downs but on par with bethpage red. i played there last summer on a very hot june saturday, and it was in under 5 hours, which is fantastic for around here.
split rock is the best layed out nyc course, but yes the round can be long. it's definitely worth a try at some point b/c you'll be shocked it's an nyc course.
branton woods and nj national are no longer available to the public as i know it, but both were nice. i am not a mansion ridge fan, nor hudson hills.
i think your best bets in the area for consistent daily fee / public golf and to play in less than 5 hours are tall grass on long island and royce brook east.
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I played Mansion Ridge again today. Full price, even relatively early, with no mention that the fairways and greens were recently aerated. The fairways were littered with aeration plugs that were not even raked. No cart service was evident for the entire 18 holes. Tee boxes and greens were not maintained in the least. It makes me wonder how this place stays in business. It's really a shame, because it's a decent layout with some fairly scenic holes.
So the question is: what's up? The guys I played with said that maintenance has declined dramatically since all the homes on the course have been sold - so there's no motivation (for additional home sales) and no desire on management's part to keep it nice. I was hopeful, but I can't recommend it to anyone based on today and past history. I've permanently crossed this course off my list of places to play.
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Did you see the "liner" coming out of the fringes around the greens? Pathetic conditions given the price tag.
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Thanks for the insight everyone. I just moved to the Metro NY area (Bergen County NJ) and have been trying to figure out where to play around here within an hour or so. Mansion Ridge was def. on my radar but maybe not anymore...
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Thanks for the insight everyone. I just moved to the Metro NY area (Bergen County NJ) and have been trying to figure out where to play around here within an hour or so. Mansion Ridge was def. on my radar but maybe not anymore...
Try Wild Turkey, Crystal Springs or even Great Gorge Country Club in northern NJ. A little closer across the border in Rockland County...Patriot Hills Golf Course. Very nice track...VERY elevated tee boxes. If thats not your thing...don't consider it. Previous post put Spook Rock Golf Course...my home track. Problem is getting a tee time along with the "under 5 hour round". Not happening on a Sat. or Sun. in the summer. Now that it's Sept...better chance of a quicker round. It's a great traditional layout...I grew up playing there and will always hold that layout as one of my favorites.
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Thanks for the insight everyone. I just moved to the Metro NY area (Bergen County NJ) and have been trying to figure out where to play around here within an hour or so. Mansion Ridge was def. on my radar but maybe not anymore...
Rockleigh is the best of the bergen county owned courses. I am not a big fan of river vale. Emerson is a decent track (haven't been there this year though).
Courses i would recommend that are within 1 hour (or maybe a little longer). Ballyowen is great. Usually in very good condition. Wild Turkey is my second favorite of the courses in Sussex. It is not as difficult and usually ion good shape. The new nine holes at crystal springs is a real nice layout, but was not in great shape the last time i played it. Bethpage Black - enough said. Bethpage red - a real nice course and usually in good shape - but still 1 and 18 are playing as par 3s. Centennial - nice course usually in good shape. Richter Park - a little further than the others.
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Blue Hill in Orangeburg/Pearl River is a decent track too, 27 holes, all quite different. Long from the tips. I used to live down the block from Spook Rock and always loved it. Hard to get a tee time if you're not from Rockland Co. or Suffern, really. Phillip Rotella in Haverstraw/Pomona is a decent track as well, nice elevation changes, forgiving off the fairways.
As for the Bergen tracks, Rockleigh is the best muni - Red/White is fun, has plenty of scoring opportunity but isn't boring. I played the heck out of Valley Brook when I lived in bergen, it was 25$ to walk weekdays and was easier to get out on, but it's kinda short and boring and the regulars don't care about fixing pitch marks on the greens.
I played Emerson GC in the spring and the greens were terrific, but that course gets hammered over the summer and the newest owners don't really care about it enough to warrant 80$. +1 on the Crystal Springs courses, get on their mailing list and they send great deals out all the time. It can be a trek from the metro area to get out there, but if you go early early in the morning you're okay. Ballyowen is awesome, I even like Black Bear when it's in nice shape.